Buckle up for five masterclasses on sales strategies your team needs to be successful in this challenging market.
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Hi everyone, welcome to the sales edition of our summer 23 pipeline power hour.
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I'm Robert Simmons, CRO here at Qualified, and today we've got five back-to-
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back mini-master
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classes to help sales leaders and sales reps feel more confident as they take
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on the challenges
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of our current market. It's hard right now. The world of tech sales has changed
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dramatically.
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We're facing a totally different world than we were a year ago, or even six
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months ago.
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We're seeing buying behavior totally shift. I'm excited to sit back and learn
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from some truly
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great voices in the B2B sales world, and joining us first to talk about the
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biggest changes impacting
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sales teams is Gina Sandoval with the sales trends you need to know in 2023.
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Hi, I'm Gina Sandoval. I'm a sales leader here at Allbound, and today we're
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going to talk about
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sales trends that you need to know in 2023. Now, in the past six years or so
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that I've been
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working in B2B sales, I've seen a lot of things change over the course of how
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our buyers buy,
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how sellers sell, and everything in between. One of the things that we
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obviously want to talk
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about today is some of the economic uncertainty that is happening. AI is
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definitely changing the
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game. There's lots of pros and cons to it. I know everyone feels either maybe
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one way or another
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way about it, but regardless of how you feel about it, it is definitely
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changing how our buyers buy.
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And as sellers, we really need to do our best to adapt to the changes in this
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space,
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and really think about how the demographics of our buyers are shifting, and
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really the way that
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they buy. So in terms of buying committees, I mean, when I first started, there
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are definitely times
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where we closed deals where maybe one person or maybe two people were involved
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throughout the
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entire sales process. On average now, there's about six to seven people
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involved in closing a deal,
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and even upwards of 20 in larger enterprise deals as well. Deal cycles, of
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course, in turn,
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lengthen because of this, and budgets have been even tighter, especially post-
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COVID,
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and 58% of B2B teams have seen budgets stay flat or even reduced in 2023. So
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lots of things to
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consider there. Now, when we think about what AI can do, there's definitely a
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lot of benefits,
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of course, as it can increase productivity across the board, looking at ways
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where can we automate,
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especially when it comes to marketing messaging or maybe outbound or inbound
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messaging, you can
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get very specific and actually create much more personalized outreach. And I
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think as salespeople,
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we've all seen it, there is so much noise out there. And it just got harder, I
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found,
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to send out a message that is actually going to get the attention of the reader
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in their inbox.
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People are busy. There's just, again, so many emails that we have to sort
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through. And so being
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able to personalize where you can is going to be so important and thankfully
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with AI tools,
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you can actually leverage these to your advantage and actually spend more time
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going after maybe
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some specific accounts rather than hitting everybody with the same message. But
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personalization is
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always going to be key. I've always been a big proponent of that and I've seen
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a lot of success
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wherever you can personalize your message. And then in terms of how our buyers
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have changed,
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obviously millennials and Gen Z are slowly taking over the folks that are
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actually in buying
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positions now. In fact, they make up about 64% of all B2B buyers today. And
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these younger
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generations do prefer to do their own research. I mean, I can't tell you how
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many times we've received
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them a request or gotten a call with somebody and it seems like they've really
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done their homework
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before we ever even have a conversation with them. So about 43% of your buyers
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are going to
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prefer a rep-free experience. And 90% of those younger buyers cite somewhat of
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a dissatisfaction
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with vendors versus only 71% of buyers from older generations. By 2025, more
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than a third of B2B
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purchases are actually going to be occurring through self-guided channels. So
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people just doing
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their own research, going through references from maybe people they know. Again
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, online reviews are
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huge as well. So what do we do as sellers when it feels like there's, you know,
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maybe things
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aren't looking so great for us. There's a lot outside of our control. It can
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feel very, very
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overwhelming. And I can speak from personal experience as I've seen, you know,
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definitely a lot of things
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change in the space, whether I was, you know, BDR or, you know, account
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executive or even leading
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my sales team. You really do have to think about, you know, ways that you can
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adapt. And one thing
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that I've always wanted to put a focus on regardless of where my role has been
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in a sales perspective,
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whether I'm an individual contributor or a leader, I always want to focus on
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what I can control and
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separate that from what I call an uncontrollable. So let's define those first
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and uncontrollables,
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anything that our prospects or our customers say and do. Some examples would be
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whether or not they
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decide to answer the phone when you call them or respond to your email or even
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open that email,
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whether they are logging into LinkedIn to see your message. Their timeline,
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their buying process,
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like we mentioned earlier, a lot more people are involved now. There's not a
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whole lot we can do
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about that. So, you know, I would put that under the bucket of an uncontroll
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able. Any organizational
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changes, if you've been in sales long enough, you know how frustrated it is
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when you've been
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working on a deal, you'd have great rapport with your client and then they
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leave the company or
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maybe they've been like, "Oh, or something happens to where you start to lose
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some of that traction."
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It is, you know, it's never fun, but it is something that, you know, it can
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happen.
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Other things as well, like we talked about economic restraints when COVID
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happened and everybody was
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on a, you know, purchasing freeze. And now what we're seeing where, you know,
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buyers again are
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becoming younger and the messaging that we have to send out now has to change.
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We don't have a lot of control whether or not somebody, again, layoffs,
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purchasing freezes, things like that. Again, we can't control the finances of
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our clients that
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we're speaking with. But now let's focus on what we can control. Controllable,
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I have to find it as
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anything that we say and do, anything that we can change. And regardless of
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what's happening,
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in the economic, you know, world, we are always able to be prepared. We're
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always able to
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have a really consistent follow through. I think a lot of the reason why, you
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know, people maybe
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don't have a great experience going through a salesperson to purchase something
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is maybe they're
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not getting the follow through. Maybe they don't feel like that sales rep is
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really here in their
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concerns. So being an attentive listener, you know, following through, if you
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say you're going to
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send something, you know, definitely send it and being really prepared are
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great ways to
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definitely instill that confidence into the buyer. You're delivering your work
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ethic,
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your attitude on the calls. These are all things that are 100% within your
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control. Regardless of
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what's happening, you know, the world around you, you are able to set the tone
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for each
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call that you have with your prospect. You're also able to, you know, be
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mindful of your delivery
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and your motive. I always kind of point to my team and we have these
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conversations and you hear
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a sales question from person. Our buyers are getting younger. You know, I think
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they're more
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aware of those salesy type questions. So you really want to think, what's the
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motive behind a
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question that you're asking the sales process? Are you actually trying to help
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and add value to
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the prospect? Are you just looking to help yourself? You know, and you ask sort
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of
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one-sided questions where, you know, I just want to gather information with the
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prospect,
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but you're not actually providing a knee value to them back. Prospects feel
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that and they, you know,
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I don't think they appreciate it. And so you want to be mindful, hey, I want to
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make sure that my
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prospect feels when they leave this call that they are cared for, their
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concerns are, you know,
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addressed and really listened to and really understood. A really good way to do
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this is just
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lead with curiosity. Again, I've been at all bound for a while now and it's
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very easy. I think for
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any sales rep to kind of get in a routine, get into a little bit of a rut of
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you've gone through,
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you know, a hundred discovery calls and they start to start, they, you know,
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begin to feel the same
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a little bit. But with you lead with curiosity and you practice genuine
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interests at each interaction,
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that is going to completely change a dynamic of the sales process. That person
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is now going to feel
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like you actually care what they have to say. You're interested in their unique
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business problems
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and you're asking questions that, you know, you'd only be able to ask if you
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were being an attentive
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listener. Hey, you mentioned you have hundred partners. How many of those
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partners are really
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active? Tell me what that looks like today. I know there's a lot of back and
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forth on
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having scripted questions or guidelines. There's difference of opinions out
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there for sure. But
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I always found it's it works best if you follow your intuition and your
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curiosity. Kind of put
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yourself in the mindset of, Hey, if I'm talking to a friend I haven't spoken to
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in a while or
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meeting somebody new, I try to have a similar dialogue. And so you're not going
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to just
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in a normal, that full conversation with the person just ask them question
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after question after
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question, to gather information you want to build upon that conversation. So
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really being curious
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and trusting your intuition, I think as long as your framework is good, it's
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okay to go off script.
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How you lead a sales interaction should be a reflection of you. Now, when I
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first started,
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I didn't really figure out what my sales voice was. And I was kind of copying
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off of what I saw my
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other team members do. But you want to make sure that how you're worrying
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things, how you are
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answering questions is a reflection of how you actually talk, because it will
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come off more
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genuine. Again, your delivery tone is just as important as the words that you
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use. I think that
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kind of goes without saying, but you would be surprised at how much different
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of an outcome
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you'll get depending on the energy kind of in your voice and in your, your body
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language,
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even though we have very limited of that on zoom. And then of course, if
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somebody asks you a
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question, the natural reaction is just to answer, but I always like to slow
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that down. And if they
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say, Hey, what is your pricing? Follow that up with maybe what is your budget
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look like? And really
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get them to explain more rather than jumping into answering the question, why
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is that question
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important to you? Let's talk about that more. I'm interested. But lastly, I
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think everything
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comes down to the mindset of just being indifferent before I was in B2B sales,
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I did sell internet
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door to door that teaches you a lot about how to be indifferent on any outcome.
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You want to treat
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everybody with confidence and care regardless if you feel like they're a great
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fit or a poor fit.
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And everybody deserves that level of respect and care in the process. You know,
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don't be
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afraid to walk away from something. If it is a poor fit, I think when you're
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more confident in
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doing so, it actually gives a lot of build a lot of trust with you and your
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prospect. And of course,
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don't let the uncontrollables affect your attitude and your work ethic. You,
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you know, are in control
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of those things of how far you're going to put in for that day or that week.
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And what your attitude
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will look like. So if you just lost a deal or maybe you just got a really
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unfortunate email that
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your champion has left the company. And now you kind of have to start from
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scratch. Don't let that
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affect your next discovery call from somebody that hasn't even met you yet. And
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on the flip side of
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that, if you get really great news, hey, we're really excited. We're going to
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buy all down or
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whatever the case may be. You still being diligent following through your steps
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, followed through
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that repeatable process until it's side sealed and delivered. You know, you
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never want to over
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celebrate before anything is totally complete. And kind of just assume that the
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worst, you know,
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the worst case is a possible scenario. So if you go in assuming, hey, this
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person could not show up
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on my call, maybe they're going to tell me they don't have budget, whatever it
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is, be prepared for
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that, but have, you know, hoping for the best of just being prepared for
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whatever comes your way
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is a really great way to kind of, you want to stay even heal in sales. Everyone
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's heard it sales
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as a roller coaster, but the more indifferent you can be, you will start to see
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that consistency
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across quarter over quarter and year over year. And last thing I would say is
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never, ever depend
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on your prospect to follow through on what they're going to say. It is your job
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to hold them accountable.
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It's your job to remind them about meetings. It's your job to maintain making
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sure those
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meetings are attended and they're kind of doing their their side of the bargain
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as well. They're
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looking to you to guide them. And so, you know, don't take that lightly. It
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really is a privilege.
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And as we see more and more AI kind of seep into our day to day in sales, just
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remember that,
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you know, you as a human, you are unique and don't be afraid to, you know,
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express that in your
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sales process. Thanks so much for sharing those insights, Gina. It's so
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important as sales leaders
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to keep a pulse on what we're up against and what we need to stay ahead of to
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do our jobs well.
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Perhaps one of the biggest trends we're seeing is the advent of generative AI
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sales tools,
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taking the tech world by storm. This new technology has changed the game for
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sales overnight.
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And one of our very own senior account executives, Maddy Casalen, is ready to
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dive into some of the
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ways that he's been experimenting with chat GPT and share his best prompts to
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help sales pros
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stand out in inboxes and personalize their outreach to book more meetings than
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ever.
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Take it away, Maddy. Hello, everybody. My name is Maddy Casalen. I'm a senior
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account executive
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here at Qualified. Happy to have you in on the session today to learn about how
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we're going to
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start using AI as part of our sales processes in day to day to remove some
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mundane tasks and
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improve efficiencies. So let's dig in. So I get really excited about this stuff
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for a few reasons,
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mainly because I've seen some real productivity gains myself. And I want others
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to experience
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the same and the more productive we are, the more time we get to focus on other
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things. And
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hopefully it leads to more developed deals, more pipeline for us as salespeople
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. Now,
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there could be like 10 sessions on the topic of using AI in sales, but to make
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effective use of
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time here today, I'm going to quickly overview five easy ways to get started
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with some examples.
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And some of you might take this and really lean into it, which is exciting.
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Some of you might think
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this is all kind of crap, and that's okay. But I think I can speak for a lot of
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salespeople today
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that we need every angle to find and develop a pipeline right now. And I'm
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hopeful that there
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are some takeaways that teams can start using right away, just like we are here
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at Qualified.
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So some people might feel overwhelmed by what's possible with AI, but we're
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going to simplify
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today in five easy use cases to get yourself introduced to this wave of
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technology that's now
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available to us. So these ideas are account research, shaping better messaging,
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finding
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above the line priorities, critical thinking and then self-organization and
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improvement.
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So starting with account research, being relevant is the key to any effective
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outbound approach.
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And what used to take several manual hours or sometimes even days to research
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accounts to find
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relevant insights and nuggets that can really help us find ways to crack into
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accounts really
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now take seconds. So there's a number of free AI tools that you can use to find
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any info that
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will help you better understand the accounts and build relevancy. And my
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favorites are all free
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perplexity.ai, chat, GPT4, Google Bard, things like that. And examples can be
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broken down into three
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categories. In recency, you can find relevant account news in seconds. So
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something like find me
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recent news about Company X and their recent product launches and their latest
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earnings report,
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that's a prompt that I use pretty frequently. It's important to understand
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growth trends when
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you associate your value prop to your prospects. So an example growth prompt
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can be, hey, what
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factors have contributed to Company X's growth the last year? Or what is
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Company X's plan for
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sustaining this growth? And then lastly, another effective way to use prompts
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in these tools is
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to cobble together media assets and have them be analyzed. So I've asked
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something like perplexity.ai
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to source me if any executives at some of my target accounts have been featured
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in recent
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podcasts or articles or interviews. So again, what used to take long periods of
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time to scan
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articles and read through earnings reports, listen to all these podcasts, now
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take seconds.
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And there's obviously a few ways to use this information to begin or develop a
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deal.
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And that leads me to the second idea here, which is shaping better messaging.
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Once we have some
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relevance in our outreach, we can then build up a personalized message message
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that wins,
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and at least gets that open right up. So I use the word shape because in my
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personal opinion,
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it's not fully responsible to rely heavily on AI to fully write your emails. Do
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not copy and
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paste GPT emails into outreach or sales loft or any other tool. Not only is it
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obvious,
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but it doesn't have the same huge human judgment that we do. So there are a few
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ways we can prompt
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GPT or other tools to use certain inputs and then guide it with a few rules.
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And this example here,
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this is a real email that our team has used from a set of rules and guidelines
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that I had built
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to engineer a good quote outbound email. So you can read the text here for
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yourself,
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but I asked AI to weave together my prospects affection for baking cupcakes
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with our value
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prop. And if you instruct the AI to mesh together the two of those things
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creatively,
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the outputs are pretty amazing and take seconds to write.
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The next idea here is finding above the line priorities. This is a use case
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that's probably
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my favorite. We all know that money follows pain and pains are meant to be
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healed. And the
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medicine that heals these pains will receive funding from economic buyers. And
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as software sales
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people, we always look to anchor one initiatives from the C suite that they
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care about. And without
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hearing directly from our champions and buyers what those initiatives might be
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or what they are,
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what's top of mind, your chances of developing a real deal are very slim. And
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there's four major
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areas why software is purchased in my opinion. It's either increasing revenue,
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decreasing costs,
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mitigating risks, and improving productivity. And usually at the sea level,
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projects are set in
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place to achieve these four areas. And we know we can use AI to help identify
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sea level initiatives.
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Maybe they come from remarks, from executives publicly or from interviews or
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from earnings
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reports or 10Ks. And we can then consolidate this information to find new
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opportunities,
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but also develop and accelerate existing big deals in our pipeline by multi-
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threading,
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by looping in additional stakeholders that you think your solution can impact
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based on what you
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find. Another one of my favorite use cases here for AI is using it for critical
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thinking. I use
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GPT as somewhat of a second brain for lots of my behind the scenes work. Two
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brains are better
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than one, and the speed and intuition of AI is a little bit too valuable to
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ignore to help and find
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develop these deals. So critical thinking examples that I have personally used
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include instructing AI
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to act as a specific persona. So let's say you go out and you're selling to and
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you target
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B2B sales leaders, you can prompt it, "Hey act as a B2B sales leader." You can
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also prompt it to
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say, "Hey act as a rev-op leader or a COO or a corporate lawyer if you're
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trying to come through
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some red lines and provide some summaries to your legal team on some feedback
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that you've already
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gotten." So you can also share some of the challenges that are threading your
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team's success. One of
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the great use cases here is, if I was a sales leader and I'm managing a team,
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is I can say,
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"Hey, I manage a number of reps. I'm noticing this constant trend that's kind
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of holding our team
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back, such as deals stalling at a particular stage. We're losing deals to a
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certain competitor."
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And then you can prompt AI to see how they would address that challenge if you
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say,
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"Hey act as a B2B sales leader." And then you can also use AI to inspect your
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own sales hygiene
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and suggest where you might be missing some key areas to accelerate and win
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your deals
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by asking AI where tendencies might be from your buyer. So these are some
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examples of critical
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thinking. And then the last use case that, again, I use pretty commonly in my
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day-to-day is how I
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think about progressing my career and improving my own skills. So think about
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AI as serving as your
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secondary career coach. How do you track towards that promotion that you covet?
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What sets of traits
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should you look for in a mentor? What roadblocks inhibit you from achieving
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your goals? You can also
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use it for simple task management, skill improvement, and plan building. For
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instance, I use it to
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hone my negotiation skills by instructing AI to act as a CFO sometimes and play
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devil's advocate on
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my value proposition or my business pitch. Or I ask AI what a typical leader in
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demand gen
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struggles with so I can approach that conversation ahead of time with that
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meeting with the VP of
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demand gen potentially with more comprehension. So the use cases here are
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endless, but this has
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definitely become part of my daily routine where I'm using this stuff to up
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skill myself and learn
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a little bit new things every day. So, like I said, some of this stuff can be
22:12
overwhelming,
22:13
but what is absolutely guaranteed is that this wave of AI is crashing onto us
22:17
fast.
22:18
And soon we're all going to be expected to do these things as salespeople. So
22:22
it's really best
22:22
to familiarize yourself with these new tools, find actual valuable use cases,
22:27
and start implementing
22:28
them. My goal is to help other sellers make sense of all this and hope this has
22:31
been helpful here today.
22:32
Wow. Thanks, Maddy. AI is everywhere right now, and it's hard to know where to
22:38
start,
22:39
so it's good to keep those prompts in our back pocket. In the Docs tab of our
22:44
event, please make
22:45
sure you head over to subscribe to Maddy's sub stack. He's sharing tips on
22:49
integrating AI into
22:51
day-to-day activities. Speaking of AI, the folks over at Lavender are helping
22:57
thousands of
22:58
SDRs, AEs, and sales managers craft the best possible emails with real-time
23:03
assistance powered
23:04
by AI. We've got their very own Mike Wanda ready to share his best practices
23:09
for writing emails
23:11
that grab you by his attention, engage them, and keep you top of mind. Let's
23:16
get over to Mike's
23:17
10-minute sales school and see how the pros at Lavender help sales teams craft
23:22
better emails
23:23
and get better replies. Hey, everybody. I'm Mike here from Lavender. I'm going
23:28
to give you a nice
23:29
little rundown on 10-minute sales school, but I want to give a shout out to the
23:33
qualified team.
23:34
I'll put together a great event. I'm glad thanks for having me. And yeah,
23:38
hopefully you guys can
23:39
find some tactical advice out of 10-minute sales school. But nonetheless, let's
23:44
do it.
23:44
All right. So for today, I want to start us off with what's the state of the
23:50
buyer's inbox?
23:51
It's something that not a lot of us actually have observation and do, right?
23:56
How many of your
23:56
bosses have taken a screenshot of what their inbox looks like and then sent
24:01
that to your sellers
24:03
inside of Slack? Probably not a lot, right? And so here's what that kind of
24:09
looks like,
24:10
just how low the bar actually is and how much of it's actually filled with spam
24:18
So just to kind of get straight into it, this is what a buyer's inbox looks
24:24
like.
24:24
All right. It's cluttered. It's got a lot of things that are going on into it.
24:30
But how many of
24:31
these do you think are actual cold emails? Now, if you were able to say all of
24:39
these within four
24:41
to five seconds, you're the average buyer. How many of your sales teams know
24:46
that?
24:47
How many of your sales teams know that the average buyer only spends zero to
24:53
three seconds
24:54
deleting or deciding if they're going to open an email? That's it. That's all
25:00
the time that they
25:00
are spending with your email before they ever open it. Zero to three seconds.
25:07
And so
25:08
things that are wrong with this, let's look at it. For instance, it's all sales
25:14
language,
25:15
AI writing assistants, right? Hello, Jen. I hope this email finds you well.
25:20
Tell me when's
25:22
the last time an internal person sent you an email and said, I hope this finds
25:25
you well.
25:27
Probably never, right? And they surely don't put their name, which is the next
25:33
thing, punctuation
25:34
or tokens inside the subject line. All of these things scream sales email,
25:41
scream it.
25:41
And then once you get to the preview text, I would say the best one here might
25:45
be the RE,
25:46
right? The REED or the reply. And then once you're like, okay, well, let's see
25:52
if this is
25:52
important. You go into it. It's like, hi, I emailed you about our users slash
25:56
customers list.
25:57
Immediately, you know it's a sales email. If you take a look at this and then
26:02
you take a look at
26:03
your inbox, this is probably what all of your sales emails look like. This is
26:08
how low the bar
26:09
actually is. And so what can we do about this as a sales community and how can
26:15
we actually raise
26:16
the bar? Because this is not where it should be. Well, let's look at fixing it.
26:23
When you look at it,
26:23
you've got to use internal language. So what is internal language, right?
26:28
Everybody always talks
26:29
about it. Go take a look at LinkedIn and people probably all post about it. But
26:34
hardly do you find
26:35
examples. Internal language is the best way to put camouflage so that you can't
26:42
tell it is a
26:43
sales email just by simply taking a glance. It's the thing that makes you go to
26:48
the next part of the
26:50
email, which is your preview text. That is what internal language subject line
26:55
is going to allow
26:56
you to do things like framework issues, reply rate problems, all those
27:01
different things, right?
27:03
Take the number one problem you solve for, try to put issues or problems after
27:09
that, right? Ask
27:10
yourself, what would you send to your boss? If you had an issue with your
27:14
current email templates,
27:16
would you send, you know, Mike, if we fix this, we can 2x our reply rates. You
27:22
probably wouldn't,
27:23
right? So use that internal language and then drop all the punctuation and
27:28
those name tokens.
27:30
Anytime a buyer sees a purple heart or a wizard emoji or a question mark or an
27:37
exclamation point,
27:39
it all just triggers what we call the mental spam filter. And things that
27:45
trigger the
27:45
mental spam filter are the same things that are going to get your email deleted
27:49
before it ever
27:50
even gets the chance to be opened in red. So what can you do when it comes to
27:55
preview text?
27:57
Well, lead with observations. Take a look at every single one of these emails.
28:03
Not a single one of
28:04
them say, "Hi, Jen." Or, "Hey, Jen." Or, "Jen." "I saw." They all say, "I hope
28:14
our community, right? I,
28:16
I, I, everything is geared towards, I hope this finds you well. I emailed you
28:22
about this. I wanted
28:23
to check in about that." But none of them say an observation. None of them lead
28:28
off with our buyer,
28:29
the person who we're asking for time. And so that is how you can fix your
28:34
subject line
28:35
and your preview text. But what happens after they open your email? Well, this
28:41
is what success
28:43
looks like when it comes to its sales world right now. It's pretty bad. Source,
28:48
G-mass,
28:49
Cognizant, and Gartner. The average code email reply rate is 1 to 5%. 1 to 5.
28:58
That's how low the
29:00
bars. 2% when it comes to code calling connection rates. And 72% of buyers who
29:07
say they prefer a
29:08
rep-free experience. Has the sales world? That's a number we need to see go
29:15
down.
29:17
The last thing we want our buyers feeling like when they hop onto the call with
29:21
a sales person,
29:22
they're not going to leave with anything new that they've learned. This is a
29:26
number that we
29:27
should take seriously. We should leave written down and send back to our teams
29:31
at the end of this
29:32
to say we got to fix this. We want to be seen as a brand that people want to
29:39
interact with somebody.
29:42
Now, how can you fix it? Right? What can we do specifically when we focus on
29:47
emails?
29:48
How are we going to craft emails that get responses? Everybody likes to say,
29:53
"The golden phrase, I need to break through the noise." Or, "How do I break
29:58
through the noise?"
29:59
Well, it is not by adding more noise. Everybody always says, "I like to use
30:05
this analogy
30:06
that when somebody comes in to a call with me and they talk to me and they say,
30:10
"Mike,
30:10
I need to reduce or break through the noise. I need to go through the noise."
30:15
What I say is, "Okay, what are you doing about it?" And oftentimes the answer I
30:18
get is,
30:19
"Well, I need AI to help me automate more messaging." And I'm like, "All right,
30:23
so it sounds like
30:23
we're trying to turn up the volume. I don't know if you guys have ever been to
30:27
a room that's quiet
30:28
with a bunch of people. And then suddenly people start to talk and then slowly
30:32
but surely one
30:33
person starts talking louder than the other. And you see where I'm going with
30:37
this. The volume
30:38
gets louder and louder in the room. And so the best way to break through the
30:42
noise right now
30:43
is right in front of your face. It's by writing your own emails, not having an
30:47
AI do it,
30:48
reducing the volume so that you can hear clearly through everything that's
30:53
going on,
30:54
personalizing for your prospect and research and lead with relevancy. So what
31:04
does that look like?
31:06
Because it takes a long time, right? Well, this is something that you guys
31:11
probably get.
31:11
And I would ask yourself, if this is an email that your sales team is sending,
31:16
is that the answer? Would you reply to this? Probably not. So we don't want to
31:23
set that bar there,
31:24
right? We want to set this bar in a better way. So let's go through and break
31:29
down why this email
31:30
probably isn't going to get replied to. Well, first we've got a really long
31:34
subject line.
31:35
Now it's personalized because this person was a two time NCAA swimming national
31:41
champion,
31:42
which is awesome. But that's not a reason why they're going to reply, right?
31:48
And so
31:49
this is leading with personalization, but not so much relevancy. And then the
31:55
second thing is
31:56
it's so much personalization, but it's not focused on the actual relevancy,
32:02
right? You have to be
32:04
relevant when you talk about your emails. One of the golden rules that I have
32:10
is if I can't
32:11
talk about the current problem that you're having today, if I don't see an
32:15
actual problem,
32:16
but there's a bunch of personalization stuff that I can find on you, I'm not
32:20
going to write you an
32:21
email. Because just because I did my research and I know that you were an
32:25
athlete and you were a
32:26
great swimmer, doesn't mean that you actually have any problems in your current
32:30
business.
32:30
And that's why you should take a call with me. Personalization is awesome, but
32:35
it's best used
32:35
in a PS. Through our data, what we found is using personalized PSs rather than
32:41
adding a
32:42
personalization touch for your first sentence of your email increased your
32:46
reply rates by 26%
32:48
on average. And then lastly, this is a very long email. It's going to take a
32:53
long time to read.
32:54
It's probably 200 plus words, and it's really cluttered. This is how we fixed
32:59
it.
33:00
It took us less than two minutes, less than two minutes to rewrite that entire
33:05
email,
33:05
focus on all of the relevant parts, add in some really cool personalization
33:10
throughout the way,
33:11
shorten the subject line down to two to three words to sound more integral,
33:15
right? And it focuses
33:19
much less on that personalization aspect and much more on the relevance aspect.
33:25
So if you take a
33:25
look at these emails side by side, one of them scored a 65 and the other one
33:29
scored a nine.
33:30
Now, you'll notice same thing. We took the same content, the same words, and we
33:39
just simply told
33:39
a different story in a much shorter, more concise way focused entirely on our
33:45
prospect.
33:45
But if that's not enough, let's go into another email. This one specifically
33:51
wrote by an AI,
33:53
whoever, the person who submitted this email to me, they said, well, I like to
33:58
use Shashi
33:58
Petit to write all my emails. And I was like, ooh, all right, sounds good.
34:03
Hello, the efficiencies.
34:04
But there's one thing that's been changing how I'm going to give you guys some
34:08
spam filter updates
34:10
here. Recently, what's happened is Google and Microsoft have to change their
34:14
spam filters
34:15
to add in an AI detection model. So if you're using AI to write emails for you,
34:21
you might be triggering some spam filters. And if you send any emails that are
34:26
over 50,
34:27
over 50 net new code emails a day for that individual user's account, the odds
34:33
you go to spam
34:34
are dramatically increased for every email after 50. So be careful when we talk
34:38
about some volume
34:39
plays. It's probably why some of you might have seen a decrease and your
34:44
deliverability and your
34:45
ops created starting back in the middle of February. But for this example, you
34:50
can see a lot more
34:51
black kind of like highlight, right? It's because there was a lot of talking
34:55
all about me. It was
34:57
all about me in this email, right? It was clearly AI written. I mean, outside
35:02
of us telling them
35:03
telling us that it was wrote by an AI, you can kind of tell that it was, right?
35:06
Things like,
35:07
I'm not going to pull the wool over your eyes or front and center. This is a
35:11
sales email, right?
35:13
Things that are just going to get deleted right away. Some of you might even
35:15
have laughed when you
35:16
read it. But there's one other thing that this does that a lot of sellers do.
35:21
It is they use
35:22
length and bullet points. And what I mean by that is rather than talking about
35:27
one problem at a time,
35:29
they put in all the four things that make their company special. And the issue
35:34
with that
35:35
is you lose your prospect. And so what you need to do is just simply write the
35:41
email yourself,
35:43
talk all about your prospect rather than yourself and make it skimmable. Just
35:48
focus on one thing.
35:50
That's all you have to do. Because when you try to focus on more than one thing
35:54
what ends up happening is you lose content for your follow-ups. And if you ask
36:00
your sellers,
36:01
what is the part of the process that they struggle with the most when it comes
36:04
to code outreach,
36:05
they're probably going to tell you follow-up content. Now, all my marketers
36:09
that are out there,
36:10
they're probably like, "How you struggle with follow-up content? Push you
36:14
everything, right?
36:14
We've got a bunch of content on the website." Well, for the salespeople, you
36:19
just got to start
36:19
talking about one thing at a time. Because if you list four bullet points of
36:23
all the things that
36:24
you do that's great in your first email, that's four less things that you can
36:28
talk about in your
36:29
follow-up. So what's the winner in this one? You probably could guess. It's the
36:35
shorter, all about
36:37
your prospect, rather than about yourself, and much more skimmable email. That
36:41
's a 92, rather than a
36:43
78. So overall, new definition of success. I need you guys to get away from
36:49
that one to 5%
36:50
of the average code email or pli rate and get to where the lavender percent is,
36:55
which is 20 and a
36:56
half percent. Across our customer base, that's the average code email reply
37:01
rate. And I can tell
37:02
you right now, lavender is not a silver bullet. It's not the answer, right? But
37:07
what it is,
37:08
is it's your coach and your assistant. And that's what you actually, you need
37:12
to be able to write
37:13
those emails yourself and break through the noise by writing for your prospect,
37:18
rather than for
37:19
what's most effective for you. So how can you get there? How can you get to
37:24
that 20 and a half percent?
37:27
Take these five things and apply them today. Write your own emails. I know, I
37:32
know.
37:32
Painful topic, painful topic. It's all right, we're going to be okay. Talk
37:37
about your prospects
37:38
problems. Hold yours to yourself. Or if you want to talk about your problems,
37:42
you can email them
37:42
to me. All right, I'll listen all day long. But hey, talk about your prospects
37:47
problems. Try not to
37:48
talk about yourself. I like to give myself one sentence of real estate in my
37:52
emails to be able
37:53
to talk about what lavender does and how I can help. But everything else, 100
37:58
percent geared
37:58
towards my prospect. Also, optimize for the phone. 80 percent of buyers and
38:04
prospects open up emails
38:06
on their phone first. 80 percent. All the leaders listening in on this, ask
38:12
yourself,
38:12
where do you typically open up your emails? Most of you are probably going to
38:17
say your phone.
38:18
Some of you might even say your Apple Watch. So that's where your sellers
38:23
prospects are doing
38:24
the exact same thing. Communicate that with your teams and make sure they're
38:28
optimizing for the
38:28
phone. The last two things I want to say is use internal language. Remember we
38:33
talked about that
38:34
for our subject lines? Go through use two to three word subject lines and have
38:38
this internal
38:39
camouflage aspect to it so that you're not triggering the mental spam filter.
38:43
And then last but not
38:45
least, highlight that one problem at a time. We talked about the effects that
38:49
it has when you don't.
38:50
But seriously, make sure you give yourself some content for the follow ups and
38:56
you'll start to see
38:57
better email conversions today. That was awesome Mike. Now you've done all that
39:04
hard work to personalize
39:05
your outreach, send the killer email and you booked a demo. This is where the
39:10
rubber meets the road.
39:12
Let's talk to Eric Portugal Welsh, director of RevOps over at demo stack and
39:17
learn how to craft
39:18
an unforgettable demo. Hi everyone. My name is Eric Portugal Welsh. I'm the
39:23
director of revenue
39:24
operations at a company called demo stack. We focus on building a platform to
39:32
allow you to
39:33
demo your product in the best light, putting your best foot forward. So today I
39:37
'd like to just run
39:39
through what building an unforgettable demo looked like and how that can impact
39:45
your sales team,
39:47
your CS team and really kind of shine a light on demo analytics, something that
39:53
we haven't
39:53
insight into in the revenue operations space before. And something I think is
40:00
really going to be
40:01
really impactful for teams moving forward. So what is demo analytic and what it
40:08
was important?
40:09
Well, we've been living in a space where call intelligence has moved the needle
40:17
a lot for
40:18
sales teams and for customer success teams. And what have they done? They've
40:24
tried to replicate
40:25
what good looks like from a sales rep. And we've done that through call
40:31
coaching, how much time
40:34
they spend talking, all these like slew of analytics that the gongs, the chor
40:39
uses of the world have
40:40
brought to the forefront of our our minds. But we haven't really done the same
40:45
thing with demos.
40:47
What does a good demo look like? How many do you have to give in order to make
40:50
to get your
40:52
point across? What specific pieces of your product do you have to show in order
40:59
to engage people
41:01
and make them want your product? And then on top of that, how many, like how
41:10
often do people
41:12
receiving demos actually want to visit your environment before buying decisions
41:16
made?
41:17
So something that we've done at demo stack here after about two years of
41:22
building a platform where
41:24
you can essentially clone the front end of your product, start recording demos,
41:30
giving them
41:31
presenting them to prospects. We've we've sifted through a bunch of data and
41:36
started to put together
41:37
a big robust analytics package. It allows you to, as a customer, to see how
41:45
many demos are needed
41:46
to be given. The median duration of those demos, the different screens that
41:52
need to be shown.
41:54
And then you can basically take what good looks like from your top performing
41:59
reps and try to
42:00
replicate that across your team. I'll dive into that more in just a second. But
42:05
you know, to us, it seems to be really important that people are able to
42:11
create very specific talk tracks. And that's something that we're trying to
42:19
highlight and bring
42:20
to the forefront. So what does that look like when we're talking about what
42:26
replicating what a
42:28
top rep is able to do? Well, we can we can start to generate winning demo play
42:35
books. So, you know,
42:37
for looking at this slide, for instance, our number one rep with five deals,
42:42
one is spending
42:43
most of their time looking at analytics, editing and integration. So maybe
42:47
those are the three places
42:49
that every demo needs to hit on first in order to, you know, get the engagement
42:55
, the prospect
42:55
engagement and start to start to win those deals. So like the gongs of the
43:00
world keep saying,
43:01
replicate your A players. That's what we're looking to, you know, give you
43:06
insight into doing.
43:08
And that's at something that we've signed to be really important when focusing
43:14
on the actual demo.
43:17
In addition to this, when rolling out new product features, adoption is always
43:26
something that's
43:27
kind of forefront of product marketer minds, right? So we want to know, let's
43:32
say custom CSS in this
43:34
example is a new product feature that we're trying to push the AEs to demo. We
43:39
can really see who's
43:41
adopting that in the demo process and if it's effective or not. Maybe custom
43:46
CSS was this big
43:47
brainchild of the product team and people don't actually want to look at it. We
43:51
're spending less
43:52
time talking about it, but still winning a lot of deals. Maybe that's something
43:55
we want to focus
43:56
less on and then focus more on building a more robust editing process here. So
44:03
moving on, the
44:04
other pieces is how do demo analytics actually affect the sales cycle? So, you
44:13
know, every, I think
44:14
most people are inside of Salesforce or HubSpot in the revenue operations world
44:20
and really focus
44:20
on conversion rates, win rates. What duration, how long, how many demos are
44:27
people given at each stage
44:29
of your sales pipeline? And then what is the, how does the correlation of your
44:36
demo to win rate
44:39
affect where you're focusing time at S1? And how is that going to affect and be
44:45
impactful for
44:45
your sales leadership? And then, and this to me is something that's like, it's
44:51
really exciting.
44:53
So how long, like when you're thinking about resource planning and planning for
45:00
the future,
45:01
how much time does it take in the demo in order to win a deal? So how much
45:07
effort am I putting in
45:08
as a rep? How much time is the team putting in? And how do we scale that across
45:13
the, across the
45:14
organization? Buyer engagement. Another thing that's really interesting when
45:21
you're, you're talking
45:23
about giving a demo and providing a prospect with an environment where they can
45:28
play around with
45:30
your product in like a safe, guide-railed space. And then you're able to meet
45:37
your prospect where
45:41
they are and see real-time insights of what they're clicking around and what
45:46
they're looking at.
45:47
If they're sharing that demo environment with somebody else, you're able to
45:51
kind of meet them
45:52
where they are, time to your follow-up perfectly. So for example, here we have
45:57
the Slack integration
45:58
that's pinging us every time somebody's visiting a specific part of our demo
46:05
environment.
46:06
Number of steps they can include and how long they've spent there. So in this
46:10
case, you know,
46:11
you could reach out to Mark Robles, Robles, terrible pronunciation. And follow-
46:19
up with them
46:20
about the specific tour training for redesign page that they're looking at, so
46:23
if there's
46:24
anything else that they'd like to see. And it really helps you get a better
46:28
insight into
46:29
what your prospects are actually interested in. So maybe coming into the next
46:35
meeting,
46:35
you can tailor that demo more towards the pages that you've seen them actually
46:41
focusing on.
46:42
So that's it. Just a short and sweet talk about what, you know, the current
46:50
state of the demo
46:51
environment and what demo analytics mean and how they could potentially help
46:55
you moving forward.
46:56
Thanks so much for sharing those insights into how to use analytics to
47:00
strengthen your demo
47:01
production Eric. Of course, all these great learnings mean nothing if the team
47:06
is disengaged
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and struggling with morale. We'll round out our pipeline power hour with Sam
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Nelson,
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founder of stlleed.com, with a masterclass in motivating your team when facing
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economic downturns.
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Let's hear it, Sam. Okay, so my name is Sam Nelson. I'm the founder of stlleed.
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com. It's a big
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community of stlleed. And I'm going to be talking today about motivating your
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sales team through
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tough times. So motivating your team through tough times is a hot topic. So it
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's something that
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pretty much everyone is dealing with right now. Some people more than others,
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but even in the best
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case, unless you're like an AI company that's hit the right way for the right
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time, it maybe is a
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little bit different than 2021. And anytime things go, I feel like they're
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going backwards instead of
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forwards, it can be a little bit of a hit on morale. And as a sales leader, you
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need to make sure that
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you have a culture of winning and a culture, an exciting happy culture. And it
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can be a little
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awkward when times are tough. And you also want to do this without lowering
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your standards. So
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motivating your sales team through tough times is the big question. And there
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are a lot of different
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answers and a lot of different strategies for doing that. What I want to focus
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on today, I want
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to add a couple of constraints to this topic. And that is by changing only
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things that I can control,
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assuming I'm a manager of individual contributors. Okay, so if I'm a manager of
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individual contributors,
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and without spending any additional money. And then lastly, something that's
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pretty easy to
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implement. So something that's totally within your purview. And that easy
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strategy is increasing
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the surface area of wins. By magnifying wins, you can increase the culture of
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winning, you can
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make, you can have a culture of winning, you can make things more exciting, and
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you can increase
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morale without having to lower your standards or make any big changes. So this
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is something
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that's very simple that basically any manager can do. And there are three
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things we'll talk about.
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So we'll talk about celebrating small wins. We'll talk about where you can
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easily involve
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upper management. And then lastly, just keeping things fun. So number one,
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celebrating small
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wins. So you want to find the lowest, maybe like the smallest area of
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achievement that you can
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comfortably celebrate. So may have a community of SDR leaders, a very common
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one for SDR leaders
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is meeting set. Okay, this is a very small win. These are happening all the
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time.
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The key is to make these visible everywhere you possibly can. So in the Slack
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channels,
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messages from the manager, bringing them up in standing meetings, bringing them
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up before the
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training, having leaderboards, maybe there's an email that goes out every day.
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It is very hard to
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over celebrate wins on an SDR team. And so this extremely motivating, it costs
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no money. It's
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very time efficient to do. When someone is successful in some way, celebrate it
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everywhere. It's
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exciting for the person who's winning, it's motivating to that person. And it
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also is reinforcing to
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other people that it's easy to win. All right. Or that winning is very possible
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Next is involving upper management. So this one is, there are some very simple,
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easy ways to do this
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that take very little effort from the upper management. So for example, having
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them common in the
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Slack channel where we're celebrating wins or having them show up to one of
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your meeting where
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you are recognized, one of your meetings where you are recognizing people who
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have been successful.
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Right. It's good to have some time every week, sometimes right before a
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training,
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or right before some kind of weekly meeting where you kind of recognize people
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that have been
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outstanding in different ways. Involving upper management in some of those ways
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can be
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extremely motivating. And a lot of times managers can forget just how
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motivating this can be
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to individual contributors and also how willing upper management is to do this.
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So very easy,
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takes no money or time and is very effective. And lastly, keep things exciting.
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So you want to
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do things to keep things fun. Okay. There are a lot of fun and memorable things
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that you can do
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that cost no money and make the job more fun. One that I talk about is like,
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my blue hair was actually initially just kind of like a fun spiff. It was when
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new SDRs came in,
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if they beat the record for their first month, I said I'd dye my hair blue. And
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that's so out of
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character for me that it was really hilarious and really fun. Weirdly, it
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became my brand. And now
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I've been stuck with it forever and probably will be forever. But man, it was
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like a fun incentive.
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So anything self-deprecating, anything fun or out of the ordinary or memorable
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is very
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valuable and can stack on top of any other incentives that you have. So a few
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things you can do to
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magnify the ones on your team. Thanks, Sam. And thanks so much to all of our
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speakers today.
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I hope you walk away with some notes on how to help your team be as successful
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as possible,
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no matter the market we're facing.