Dan Darcy & Marquita Sidibe

The Value of Rediscovering Your Future


Meet Marquita Sidibe—a true Trailblazer, she changed careers after a decade in the service industry with help from the Salesforce Pathfinder Program.



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- Welcome to Inside the Oana.

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I'm Dan Darcy, Chief Customer Officer at Qualified.

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And today I'm joined by Marklita Sidubay.

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Marklita, how are you?

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- Doing well today Dan, thanks for having me.

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- Yo, thanks for coming on.

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So I wanna dive right into our first segment,

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Oana Origins.

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How did you discover Salesforce

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and start your trailblazer journey?

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- You know, I initially was not familiar with Salesforce.

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I had always been in the customer service industry,

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serving bartending in a country club actually.

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And where the most technical thing we did

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was to enter orders into a point of sale system

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on a touch screen.

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So did not have a technical background at all.

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But wanted to do something different.

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And so decided to go back to school

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and went for software development.

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After graduating, I had this new credential

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but really wasn't sure where my place was in tech.

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So I knew that Salesforce was in town.

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They were occupying the biggest building

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we had here in downtown Indianapolis.

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So I just googled how to learn Salesforce.

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And from there, I found the results

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of a Women in Tech community group.

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And that's how I got my first start

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joining this group and getting set up on Trailhead

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to build my first Salesforce app.

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And I was hooked.

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- I mean, so tell me first about, you know,

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joining that Women in Tech community group,

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like how was it walking into that room

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and first getting to know Salesforce?

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It's awesome that you built an app

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and you and I were chatting just a little bit earlier.

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I built my first app too

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and that's how I got to know Salesforce.

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So tell me a little bit about that, you know,

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that newness and that discovery

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of walking into that community group.

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- Well, you know, at first I was a little apprehensive

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like going in, I'm like, oh gosh, I have no idea.

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About any of this, but I mean, I'm here to learn.

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And but that apprehensiveness and nervousness quickly

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went away like as soon as I got in the room,

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everybody was very welcoming.

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You know, and the volunteers were super helpful.

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Got all of us set up on Trailhead

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with our new accounts and walked us through the steps.

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And by the end of it, we had built an app

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and I'm thinking to myself, wow, this is amazing.

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Like all these people just rallying around

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to help everybody learn this new tool, this new technology.

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And, you know, it was just intriguing to me

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and I said, okay, I want to be a part of this.

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So I kept going back whenever they had, you know,

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sessions to build a new app or some cool badge came out,

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but I stayed a part of the community.

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That's awesome. And how did you find a job

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that came about working with Salesforce?

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Ah, so it's one of those full circle moments.

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I always like refer to her as my Salesforce Yoda.

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Her name's Lissa Smith.

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But yeah, she was a community group later at the time.

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Because when I had went to that meeting that night,

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I almost skipped it because I also had been looking

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for a job for a while.

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You know, I was in the Pathfinder program

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and graduated from that and became certified.

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And, you know, still hadn't found anything,

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but she was a panelist in that user group meeting that night

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and said that Liberty was hiring

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and encouraged people to apply.

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So I did.

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- Incredible.

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So give me the details.

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What was your first job and, you know, what, you know,

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what was your title and your initial impression as you,

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you know, took this on?

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- So after getting hired on at Liberty,

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like my official title was a Salesforce business analyst.

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And that position at Liberty entails like being an admin

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as well as a business analyst.

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So, you know, you do your requirements gathering,

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but you also get to build configuratively

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with clicks not code, which I love

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'cause I love to have my hands in the stuff.

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But yeah, it was at first kind of scary

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'cause it was new and, you know,

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I was brand new to the ecosystem with my first official job

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outside of just building on trailheads.

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So the training wheels had come off a little frightening

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to be in a large organization with a real org,

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real people, real data, but my team super supportive

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and I've learned a lot from them along the way.

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And now I'm a senior system support analyst with Liberty

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and just celebrated my three year anniversary

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on the fifth last week.

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- I mean, well, congratulations on three years.

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That's awesome. - New year.

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- Well, I mean, so you've been a trailblazer now

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for a little over three years.

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You know, I would love for you to brag just a little bit.

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I mean, what would you say as one of your biggest successes

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that you've had so far, you know,

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working with Salesforce or just something

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you're most proud of thus far?

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- I would say, I just will never, ever forget

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when I first graduated from, there's a few things.

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The first graduated from Pathfinder,

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getting my certification and just getting that call

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from Liberty with the offer

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and knowing that everything I did, it's paying off.

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Like, I'm actually going to have a real job

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in the ecosystem and oh, definitely the Golden Hoodie moment.

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When Leah gave me that Golden Hoodie,

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like I just remember, you know,

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streaming, watching Dreamforce from a screen

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and then here I was at Dreamforce,

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getting the hoodie from the lady herself, like that.

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- It still blows my mind.

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- I mean, that gives me chills because I was there

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on Howard Street that day, you know,

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when they closed off Howard Street

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and it was only like, I think 500, you know,

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trailblazers in the audience

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and it was a very, very special moment.

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So that's awesome.

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So on the opposite side of the spectrum though,

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what would you say as your biggest lesson learned?

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- Oh, that's a good one.

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You know, when we've been in this space for a while,

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it's sometimes easy to forget

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that not everyone knows Salesforce.

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I remember being at Dreamforce last year

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and my husband and I were on the elevator at the hotel

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and someone that actually lived there worked at the hotel.

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So lived in San Francisco, you know,

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ground zero Salesforce headquarters.

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But she says to us, I see that Salesforce logo all the time.

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What is it?

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And it just like kind of set me back to where,

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oh, this tool that we are just so invested in

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and we eat, sleep and breathe,

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there's people out there that don't know about that.

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And so I would say one of my biggest challenges would be

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when I'm trying to help users in our organization,

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just trying to remember not everyone knows Salesforce,

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not everyone knows what it is.

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Once they do, they'll realize how great it is.

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But I just have to keep my,

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like that beginner's mindset.

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Think back to how it was when I was first introduced

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to the tool instead of just jumping right in to say,

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oh, you can do this and this and this and click here.

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Like I have to dial it back a notch

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and kind of give them, you know,

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info, micro-dose then with info.

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Baby steps, because it can be overwhelming

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when you're brand new.

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But yeah, once I have that beginner's mindset,

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it helps me help them.

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- If you could go back to Mark Lita just starting out,

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what advice would you give yourself?

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- Ah, I would tell myself that you do not

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have to know how to code to have a job in technology.

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I think one of the biggest misconceptions

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about working in the tech space is that you have to know

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how to code, you have to sit down and write code.

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And that's not true.

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Yeah, so that's what I would tell myself.

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And I think that believing that sometimes keeps people away.

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I know when I've tried to tell close friends and family

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that aren't in our space, hey, Salesforce, they're like,

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oh, I'm not technical, I don't know how to code.

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And then I'm like, hard stop, neither do I.

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So yeah, that's what I would tell myself

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that you don't have to code to be in tech.

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- Awesome.

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So I wanna ask you about the meaning of Ohana.

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And I asked this of all of my guests because really people

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describe it a little bit differently based on where

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they're coming from.

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But how would you describe the Ohana and what does it mean

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to you?

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- So Ohana and the Trailblazer community,

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well, Ohana literally means family,

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but in the Trailblazer community, it's like just giving.

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Coming from the service industry,

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it's pretty much the norm to keep knowledge a secret.

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Let's say if you're a bartender and you come up

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with this really cool drink, you're not telling a soul

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how you made that drink.

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It is not like that at all in the Ohana.

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Nobody gate keeps knowledge.

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When people build something cool or they learn about

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something cool, they cannot wait to share it.

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They are shouting it from the mountaintops.

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And I love that.

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And also it's not just technical know-how.

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Like if someone has resources or connections

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on a new position and they know someone's looking for a job,

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they're sharing that information.

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It is a family.

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- Yeah, and before we get into our next segment,

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are there any special stories or Ohana moments

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that are a little behind the scenes

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that you would wanna share?

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Obviously, I know you talked a little bit just about

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the Dreamforce Golden Hoody moment,

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but any other specific or special Ohana moments

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that you would wanna share?

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- There's one.

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There's actually one that comes to mind.

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There's so many.

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But during Pathfinder, we have this week long technical

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training to get us ready to get certified.

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So that room where we had our week of technical training

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with the Salesforce instructor was the very same room

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where I went to the community user group

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and heard about my now job.

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So it's like, maybe that room's magical.

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I don't know.

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- And you've mentioned Salesforce Pathfinder

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a couple times.

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I mean, I know what the program is,

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but would you explain what the Salesforce Pathfinder program

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is for our listeners?

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- Absolutely.

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The Salesforce Pathfinder program started off

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as a workforce initiative program to scale up.

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The goal was to scale up 500 Hoosiers.

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And it started out as a pilot program with 50 people.

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And I was in that initial pilot program,

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but it's since expanded and is now in the UK

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as well as nationwide, but it is to scale you up,

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get you set up with Salesforce skills

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that you need to learn in order to find employment

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in this ever growing ecosystem.

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There's an admin track, a developer track,

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a tableau track, a business analyst track.

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And it's pretty much changed my life.

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- Okay, so I wanna,

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let's get into our next segment, What's Cooking.

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So, Mark Guida, you are now the senior systems support analyst

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of Salesforce Solutions at Liberty Mutual Insurance.

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You know, talk about how you got to where you are now.

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Obviously, when you first started

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to where you are now in your current role,

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like what did it take?

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- Oh, wow.

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I definitely had a lot of help along the way

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from just deciding to make that career change

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and leaving the service industry.

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A lot of support from my family

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and the Trailblazer community

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and Liberty taking a chance on this Pathfinder,

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newly graduated, newly certified

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with not any real world, real org experience.

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And yeah, it's taken a lot.

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And the continued support of my family

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and friends in the Trailblazer community

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and our close knit Trailblazer community within Liberty,

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that's what it's taken.

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And I'm still learning, growing, thriving.

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Yeah.

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- That's incredible.

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So at Liberty Mutual, from a Salesforce admin perspective,

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what challenges are you seeing now?

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And how are you applying what you've learned

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from Salesforce to these challenges?

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- I think the challenges I mainly see go back to

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when I was saying earlier, just remembering

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that some of our users don't really know Salesforce.

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So challenges, I would say like adoption.

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And I'm sure you've heard this plenty of times,

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adoption, adoption, adoption.

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Getting people off of their Excel spreadsheets

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and into Salesforce.

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And I get it, like new is scary at first.

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But in my role as a, the business analyst,

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part of my role is teaching, hosting training sessions

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and sending users links to Trailheads.

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- Oh, yeah, that's really how I bring that Salesforce

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gamified learning piece into getting them scaled up.

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- So what's next for you and how are you shaping the future?

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- To definitely keep excelling in my career

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and my company, we have a partnership

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with the Pathfinder program where we hire interns

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for six months paid in turnship.

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And also just to keep advocating for people like me

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that aren't necessarily from like a traditional tech background

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to try it out.

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- And how are, I mean, anything else you want to expand on that?

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Like how are you joining in a user groups?

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I'm curious, is are you, you know, picking up any mentees?

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- We do mentee pathfinders within Liberty

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and ones that are in the program now.

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And still a member of the OG Salesforce Women

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and Tech Indie User Group, that's my favorite.

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- So let's get into our final segment now,

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the future forecast.

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So what do you envision as the future

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of the Salesforce ecosystem?

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- The last time I saw on Pathfinder's website,

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there were some numbers saying that

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the Salesforce ecosystem will grow by the year 2026

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and create 9.3 million jobs.

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So I see the need for the people to feel those jobs growing

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exponentially and yeah, just more jobs, more people.

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- And we'll give us a little bit of a prediction then

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on the Trailblazer community.

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What do you think that looks like in the future?

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- It's already so inclusive.

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I was joking with my husband the other night.

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I said, you know what?

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What if there was a Trailblazer community group

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for Salesforce kids?

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Like kids, they wanted to learn the platform, you know,

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it's game fun.

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- I love that idea.

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There's stuffed animals like, you know, my kids like it.

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- Yeah.

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- Who knows?

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- That's, I love that idea, it's an incredible idea.

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And so what, like following on that future predictability,

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what do you think the future of actually Salesforce looks like?

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- Oh, just, you know, in looking at their acquisitions,

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you know, like with Tableau and Slack,

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I think they're just going to continue providing

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that customer 360 view, setting themselves to be like

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a business's one stop shop to provide everything

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that their customer needs.

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And, you know, here lately even business related content,

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you know, with the launch of Salesforce Plus.

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So it's, you know, continuously growing.

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- So Mark Quita, do you have any advice

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for any aspiring Trailblazers out there?

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- I do, especially the new ones.

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Like, I think there's a big, you know, myth

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that when you're applying for a new job,

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you have to check off all the boxes

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and meet all the requirements.

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But if you meet eight out of the 10 requirements

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and think you shouldn't apply, don't do that, still apply.

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Because chances are you do have like transferable skills

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that you could use in that position.

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I've said this before, but think about applying to jobs

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like a Salesforce record.

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Sometimes you don't always need to check every box

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in order to save the record and move on

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and get your confetti.

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So yeah, that'd be my advice.

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- I love that piece of advice.

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So before letting you go, let's have fun

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with a quick light and run.

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You ready for this?

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- Sure.

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- Okay, what's your favorite Salesforce product?

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- Right now, Experience Cloud.

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- What's your favorite Salesforce character?

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- Oh, Blaze, hands down.

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- Well, let me put it on top of that.

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What's your favorite Marvel character?

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- Oh, oh gosh.

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Captain America is one of my favs right now.

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- Favorite brand of anything besides Salesforce?

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- Love me some Star Wars.

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- Love it.

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I mean, who doesn't?

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Who doesn't, right?

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Secret skill that is not on the resume.

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- Huh, theatrical makeup and cosplay.

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- Whoa, interesting.

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That's all.

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You just won front row seat tickets to your dream event.

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What is it?

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- San Diego Comic Con.

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- Awesome, I love it.

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So, Marc Guida, this has been so much fun.

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But before I let you go,

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I'll let the listeners know where they can find you.

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And is there anything else you'd like to share

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or plug today?

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- Yes, actually, I am on Twitter.

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It's Marc Guida, CD-Bay at Twitter.

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And also, I'd like to direct the users

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to the Salesforce plus series, the Trailblazer series,

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where you can go and see some amazing stories

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of Trailblazers for some inspiration.

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My episode is episode four.

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And also, the Salesforce Pathfinder program.

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That's how I got my start.

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And it's at salesforce.pathfinder.com.

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- Awesome, well everyone, check out Marc Guida

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on Salesforce Plus.

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Thank you so much, Marc Guida.

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Great to see you.

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- Thanks.

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