Jim Payne, Director of Product Marketing at Dialpad, shows how Dialpad's AI-Powered Customer Intelligence Platform gives you an all-in-one solution to get the most out of your team and customer conversations through real-time transcription, sentiment analysis, live coaching, and more.
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Hello everyone and welcome to Go to Market AI,
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the future of your Go to Market tech stack.
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I'm your host Sarah McConnell.
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In these days, it seems like every company has AI.
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But on this show, we want to go a level deeper so you can see
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first-hand how businesses are using AI to solve your business challenges.
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We're going deep into the use cases and getting
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live demos of the latest and greatest in AI technology.
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Today, I'm so excited to be joined by Jim Payne,
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director of product marketing at Dialpad.
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Jim, welcome to the show.
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>> Yeah, thanks for having me.
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>> First of all, I would love to hear a little bit more about who is Dialpad,
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what do you guys do and who are you helping on the market?
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>> Yeah, absolutely. Dialpad is a technology company focused
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on artificial intelligence and communications.
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That could mean anything from our ordinary knowledge worker who's
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just doing everyday collaboration as well as helping the contact center as a
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big one.
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If you work in customer service,
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there are a lot of really great artificial intelligence applications there,
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that we're working on as well as revenue intelligence for sales folks,
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a lot of amazing tools there as well.
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Helping all of those personas in a very cool way.
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>> Awesome. I would love to jump into the demo and see how your AI
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functionality actually works live.
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>> Yeah, absolutely.
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We'll go ahead and just start here.
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This is the Dialpad application.
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This is home base for everything.
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You'll see a lot of things that might seem ordinary on the surface.
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Make a phone call, send a message,
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start a video meeting, something like that.
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Now, in any other world, these are just mere tools,
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but for us, they become data inputs because when you're using Dialpad
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for these different things, for communications, for collaboration, video, etc.
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We're actually able to derive a lot of good insights,
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provide automation in different places,
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provide a lot of assistance as well.
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I'll show you a few things, how that works.
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I'll go ahead and make a phone call directly into this
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and make sure it works just fine.
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We'll show you a few things.
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It might look a little bit odd just because I'm calling myself,
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which is a bit strange, but we see a call coming in right out of the gates.
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Now, we see a transcription engine, FHIRA.
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The transcription is going to look strange just because, again,
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I'm talking to myself, but this is where a lot of that goodness starts.
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It is just in this transcription.
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So let's say we have a customer who's calling in
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and I'll go ahead and ask a couple of questions here.
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You'll see some points of assistance that are very, very powerful.
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So let's say I'd like to learn a little bit more about the pricing
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on your support products.
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So the customer asks that right away, we see this really cool assist FHIR,
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because the artificial intelligence is listening,
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and it's going to pull from unstructured data,
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or you can program in all these really amazing real-time assist cards,
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things like that.
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So as an agent or as a salesperson,
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those answers are always going to be surfaced to me right out of the gates.
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No matter what, which is really cool,
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because I've been a call center agent before,
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I've worked in sales before.
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Oftentimes, maybe a customer asks you a question,
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you don't know the answer.
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Your only recourse is really to stand up,
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ask the people around you,
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maybe furiously search through a knowledge base
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that you have access to and hope you can find it or something like that,
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or if you're at sales, you might be asking the people around you
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to see if you can find an SE or something like that.
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It's not very effective, and we know that times,
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those deals, things like that, it's just not a great deal.
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So the artificial intelligence is going to surface that information
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to you right when you need it, so you can say it in real time,
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whether it's pricing information, information,
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you name it.
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So a really, really powerful tool in that sense.
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It's also going to do things like give you competitive intelligence.
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Like for example, a customer might say,
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"Hi, I'm also looking at GONG.
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What are the differences between dial pad and GONG?"
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Okay, that might be one.
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And now look, oh, automatically,
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the artificial intelligence says,
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"Hey, I'm going to search your knowledge base for a GONG battle card,
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and I'm going to tell you the differences right now."
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So now I can speak about it intelligently,
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as opposed to going to talk to someone in marketing or competitive intelligence
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and finding out what the key differences are, that kind of thing.
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It's a much more powerful way to do these things.
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So again, this is all powered by the artificial intelligence.
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This is in production today.
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It gives you some great talk tracks in that sense.
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It also puts a human in the middle, which we really like.
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So if I'm a sales rep, I can say, "Hey, this was helpful.
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This was not going to help train the models."
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It's also going to put that AI parenting concept that we have in place.
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That becomes very important,
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because then whoever's managing your knowledge base
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is going to get automatically flagged to say,
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"This is not helpful. This is helpful.
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Here are some things you might want to change."
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It's also going to automatically identify redundancies, things like that,
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so that way your knowledge base is always comprehensive and update.
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Yeah, this is incredible.
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Just right off the bat.
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I think we hear a lot about AI being able to help us scale,
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or I hate this term, but do more with less.
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And that was kind of the narrative I feel like when it first,
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you know, had this explosion last year of AI.
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And it's always really cool to see it come to fruition in products
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and how that looks like in practice.
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And I think this is such a key, important use case,
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which is being able to answer questions on the fly.
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To your point of like, I think about our sales team,
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as something comes up in a sales call that they really don't.
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What are you going to do during mid-call?
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Are you going to like frantically slack people
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and try to ask questions?
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It just creates a not great buying experience for your prospect.
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And being able to pick that up and suggest answers is just,
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I feel like one of my favorite use cases of AI and helping teams scale.
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So this is really cool.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, it's very practical.
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And you know, even outside of the real-time things,
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you see stuff like, oh, I don't know, you have people walk off the job
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or someone retires and maybe they've worked there a long time
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and they have all this institutional knowledge in their minds.
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How do you get that from them?
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And how do you make it accessible to another person?
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This kind of negates that, right?
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It also makes training a lot easier,
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whereas opposed to, oh, I don't know, trying to make sure every person
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remembers every fact,
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every piece of information, they don't have too many more.
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Because the artificial intelligence is going to actually take that out of their
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control.
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So now they don't need to remember that you just focus on talking.
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You teach them how to use the AI.
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It's onboarding easier.
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I mean, it just makes everything easier when you create that knowledge center
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and then just use AI to actually service it to people.
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So then outside of that, let's even look at another thing.
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Let's say security, that's always going to be front and center
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for just about everything and everybody.
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Let's go ahead and see what happens when I talk about my credit card
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information here.
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So my credit card number is 1111-2222-3334-4444.
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So we got the credit card number.
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Now automatically, we see that the artificial intelligence is
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redacting that information right out of the case.
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So it's a front level of security, which is really nice to actually keep people
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's private
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information private.
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It helps mitigate fraud, things like that.
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It also makes things more efficient on the model training side that we have,
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because it's already gone through a level of scrubbing automatically.
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And then it's going to go through manuredity later.
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So we see that as well, which is very, very powerful.
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That's incredible.
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So you as the end user, if you went in and looked at this transcript,
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that's already redacted.
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You don't have to worry about that.
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Yeah, that's an incredible safety feature.
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Yeah, a really nice safety feature, because you have admins,
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you have a lot of people touching transcripts, things like that.
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We don't want that information in there.
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PII is PII for a reason.
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So we've got to get it out.
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So we get it out automatically so that we show up in the transcript, which is
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nice.
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So there's some of the live assistant features that we wanted to show you.
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Let me go ahead and exit out of that call.
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We can disposition the call, which is very, very straightforward.
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You know, we'll go ahead and just put nothing in there and complete it.
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Yeah.
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Now, I want to show you some of the back end analytics.
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OK, so a lot of this stuff is only as good as the back end analytics.
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We can we can do a lot of cool things.
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But the whole goal for artificial intelligence is really that it creates more
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of a circle of
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improvement as opposed to just a point solution for us.
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So if we go even into the analytics, one of the cool things that we're doing
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from this
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is automatically inferring sentiment.
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And you can see that right here.
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A lot of companies are doing customer satisfaction scoring, but they do it
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through manual surveys,
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things like that.
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Let me ask you, Sarah, do you ever stick around for two to three minutes to do
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those customer
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satisfaction surveys after you're on the call with your internet provider or
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someone like that?
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Can confidence say I've never done it one time?
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Yes, exactly.
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Nobody does, right?
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So now all of a sudden, if you're working in customer experience or something
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like that,
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you're flying blind.
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You don't even know where to train people.
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Maybe your customers are happy.
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You may not even know it.
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Or you're doing a good job in certain areas and you don't know what those best
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practices are.
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So you're really just guessing.
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So for us, because we're listening to every single interaction, we're able to
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automatically
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apply customer satisfaction source to every single thing.
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So that's macro data, which is really nice.
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You can say, here's how we're actually doing.
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Then also you get all this interesting micro data.
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So these are moments in time where you can say, hey, here is a moment of
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negative sentiment
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that the customer had.
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Here is a moment of positive sentiment.
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Here's where the call went wrong.
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You can evaluate it over time.
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Now you're able to take action as a whole.
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So for example, you could just filter in the analytics and say, hey,
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what call categories?
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Because we're getting automatic call categorization from the artificial
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intelligence,
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which we see right there.
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So we could say, oh, it's taking unstructured data and giving it structure like
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, hey,
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these calls are about billing, they're about support, etc, etc.
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And now I can filter as an administrator and say, where are my worst customer
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satisfaction
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scores coming from?
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Am I like, oh, it's all about billing.
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So now I can work on our billing procedures as a business process.
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I can also work on tailoring training to our reps to make sure that they know
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exactly
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how to handle billing issues, etc, etc.
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You can also look at individual reps or agents and say, this agent is
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struggling,
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this agent is not here.
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We just need to work with them in whatever way necessary.
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So it gives you a lot of really good, rich data.
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You also get these nice recaps and summaries and action items from calls,
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another time saver for sales folks, or if you're working from the road,
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things like that, you get all those recaps and action items automatically from
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that transcript.
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So this is all powered by Dialpad GPT.
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That is our bespoke large language model that we've launched a while back.
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It works very, very well to provide these things, which is very nice.
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So you get all of that from a single call.
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Yeah, the sentiment score, I think, is so interesting because I do,
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you know, I'm obviously on the marketing side, but from a customer success side
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I know it can be really hard to get that feedback, especially when a lot of the
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times when you're
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asking for feedback, it's the customers who are happy.
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And so it kind of creates this echo chamber.
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We've heard that's a problem.
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Like we know we're doing really well and we get that echo chamber as positive,
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but getting those, finding your gaps and finding out where there might be some
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issues
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and being able to pinpoint those, be able to pull that just out of transcripts
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and having AI
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help you figure out is it a specific area or to your point is it a specific
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individual that's
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really struggling.
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I can see where this would be really, I'm thinking of our customer success team
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and I'm seeing with this have a ton of value.
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Yeah, for customers success for sales, it helps you forecast, you know, you
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could,
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we can use the same sentiment in that sales use case where we can evaluate
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likely the buy,
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tell if you forecast sales, you can also have all these interesting moments in
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time where you
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look at a seller who's underperforming and you can look at the same thing and
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just say, oh,
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you know, Sarah's not closing any business.
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Let's take a look.
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Let's take a look at like what she's saying, what she's doing, you know, is she
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screwing up?
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Is she not? Is it just bad luck?
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Does she just need, maybe she just doesn't know about the materials we have or
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the sales
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tool or things like that.
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So it helps you answer it.
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It's like you're solving the right problem now as opposed to sometimes you don
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't know what the
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right problem is and AI helps you know what that is.
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And now you can go solve it in a more actionable way.
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We also see this for QA, you know, when I was a, when I was a call center agent
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we had scheduled QA days, which is like a scorecard where your supervisor sits
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behind you.
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They listen to all your calls.
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Super manual, super terrible.
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Some companies handle this, especially when you're in a headlight regulated
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industry,
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where you need to follow certain QA criteria to be in compliance with some
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government
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regulation or something like that.
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Very, very difficult.
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They have supervisors.
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We see customers have teams of five, six people who their whole job is just to
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listen to call
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recordings.
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And they just listen to them on, you know, two or three X speed and they just
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check
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all boxes just to make sure that everything is correct.
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We take that all out of your hands.
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It's so easy to configure.
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You can just say, hey, here are the things we need to make sure are happening.
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We need to make sure that our agents or our sellers are saying the right things
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perfect.
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And the AI is going to go ahead and evaluate every single call against those
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criteria that you set
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so you can evaluate conformity, things like that.
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So a very, very powerful tool in that sense.
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I mean, it's just going to automate and automate and then give you better
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insights.
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The better insights you have, the better training you have,
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people get better and more analytics, more insights,
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and you just continue in this sort of circle and everybody gets better.
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The company gets better.
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I really do believe that companies who aren't adopting these kinds of practices
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with AI
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are going to fall off.
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And we see that even historically, right?
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How many bowling alleys have you been to recently, Sarah, that have manual pin
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setters?
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You know, that was the origins of bowling.
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It was a person sitting there.
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You knocked the pins over and then they had some people and they would come all
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up for you.
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When was the last time you saw one of those?
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Never.
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Ever.
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They fall off.
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You know, we even remember back when e-commerce was coming around.
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The way I did that, I had to order something if I couldn't find it in the store
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as I had to call.
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And there was a person who answered a phone and I had to give them an
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information,
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you know, what I wanted, part numbers, and then someone had to go manually
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fulfill it, right?
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To fill out a card, mail it in, you know, to a fulfillment center.
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That doesn't exist anymore because anybody who thought that e-commerce was just
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like,
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you know, that'll do that.
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There's just a flash in the pan, right?
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Like those companies are gone now, you know, because everything is e-commerce.
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This is the future and companies who operate this way will set themselves apart
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And I believe that in my DNA.
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I cannot agree more.
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And another thing I want to call it here that is not specific to the AI
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functionality,
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but just to your guys' UX is I do, I really love it.
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I think anytime I see these AI-powered products where just even that scorecard
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on the right-hand
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side, how easy it is to digest that information, the quick 100% complete, 50%
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complete,
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you've got the logo there that tells you this is helping you from DialPads AI.
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That's always just such a useful part of having AI in products now is something
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I'm hoping we'll see more and more products do is really think about like how
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the UX looks
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and how they're surfacing AI and telling end users that they're benefiting it
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from
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inner products. So anyways, this really stood out to me in DialPads product
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that I just really
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love how it's set up and designed.
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Thank you so much. Yeah, we pride ourselves on that.
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The accessibility is so important. And the fact that it's one solution is
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really nice.
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It's not a bunch of point solutions cobbled together.
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And it's all working in real time, which is a big deal as well.
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You'll see a lot of point solutions going to tack on to your telephony or your
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collaboration
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or have you and they'll give you some decent insights on the back end.
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Because this is an entire stack that's fully owned by us,
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we get to actually listen to every single call path as opposed to just a blob
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of sound
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and do all the identification on the back end.
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And now we get to provide all that stuff in real time, which is really, really,
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you get all the same analytics, which are good, but then the real time
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assistance too.
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Yeah, that's amazing. Cool. Well, that's everything I wanted to show.
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It's all very straightforward. These are some of the more practical ways where
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you
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guys using AI today. I mean, we could show different stuff all day long.
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And I would invite everybody to see more just reach out to us.
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We can do a detailed custom demonstration as well.
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Absolutely. Jim, thank you so much for taking us through that demo.
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If you're ready, I would love to transition into our lightning round Q&A
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and ask you a couple questions.
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Of course. Yeah, go for it.
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So the first one is how long has Dialpad been building AI into your product?
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Yeah, this is, I mean, it's not new for us. I remember even when OpenAI and
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chat GBT started to have their moment, our CTO kept saying,
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we're going to see about 100 new AI companies pop up,
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nowhere. And sure enough, that was the case.
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We've been doing this since 2016, so that was when we really started doing the
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real time
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transcription, which is where so much of this is coming from.
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So it's been a long time. I see you're building in other things like semantic
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search with AI,
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the automatic speech recognition with AI.
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The most recent big infrastructure piece was Dialpad GBT, which we talked about
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which has really just helped you scale in a more economical way,
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because it's a bespoke LOM designed for business communications.
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You know, as opposed to being trained on the open internet, it's just trained
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to do this stuff.
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It's not going to give you a recipe for Apple Pie, you know, because that's not
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what it's for.
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Yeah. But it's going to do all this in a very accurate way.
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That's also very cost-effective and scalable.
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Amazing. And is what you show today, is that available for your customers right
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now?
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It is. Everything I showed today is generally available.
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You can access it. It's all there.
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Amazing. And speaking of customers, who are some of the customers that are
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benefiting from Dialpad AI?
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Yeah. Oh, so many. I think more than 98%. I believe our customers are using AI
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in some form
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or another with Dialpad. We have lots of large customers, big and small.
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The LA Chargers are a big one. They're a heavy user of artificial intelligence
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inside
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Dialpad, which is really, really cool. T-Mobile is a great partner of ours.
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They resell.
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They actually resell Dialpad, which is really nice. So all of their customers
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are getting a lot
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of really great AI things as well. Car gurus is another one that kind of comes
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to mind.
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They obviously have a very large customer service team that comes with
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everything so driven through
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our website and obviously buying a car is kind of a different experience with
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them and more innovative.
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So they've really adopted that innovative mindset to say, "Hey, how can we be
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efficient with this?
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How can we use artificial intelligence to dialpad to be more effective?"
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Those are some very fun logos. And then the last question is, what is next on
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your AI roadmap at
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Dialpad? Yeah, so many cool things coming out next. We're working on a lot of
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polished. I mean,
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I really believe we've only scratched the surface of what we can do here. You
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know, you're talking about
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cooler things like right capability into CRM. So it's like, oh, all of a sudden
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, note taking for
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sales reps become completely irrelevant, which is really neat. We've got some
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next-gen chat
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bot stuff coming out, which is really exciting too. I've had so many bad chat
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bot experiences,
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you know, where you're like, all it does is just searches the help center and
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it's like,
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"I don't know, talk to a person." And you're like, "Oh, come on." And then you
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got to talk to a person
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and give them all that context again. Because we're working across every
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channel, we're already
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going to preserve all that context. And we have some awesome digital self-
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service products and
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chatbots available. We're going to start folding in generative AI into those,
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which is going to be
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really, really neat and exciting. There's some next-gen agent assist stuff
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coming out too,
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which I'm excited about. You saw the first generation here. The next gen is
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going to be even better
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where it'll start actually writing talk tracks for you as opposed to just
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finding information
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and giving it to you, which is going to be really neat also. I mean, the world
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is always
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in a sense. So we've got a lot of cool stuff coming out shortly and even more
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in the near future in
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the distant future rather. Amazing. I can't wait to see what Daupah does next
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because even the demo
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that you showed today, I thought was really incredible. So excited to see where
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you guys take
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this in the future. But, Jim, thank you so much for joining us on the show
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today. I really appreciate
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you taking the time and showing us this incredible demo. So thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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